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Another view
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 1:08 pm
by Hendrek
It would be nice to have a Kill view also, for example there are 4 mobs bound up in Tower of Solusek Ro access, and 2 in the 3 Elemental Plane access.
It would be handy to see who needs Mith Marr, who needs Saryrn, etc. at a glance, whereas now you have to look at everyone's details in turn.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:49 pm
by Sephirum
Ok, when you say kill view do you mean on the PoP Roster page add more squares, or do you mean another page entirely that goes more into detail of who has what kills instead of the step by step page that each individual has? Basically recreate the PoP page to look like a kill page and show the main kills needed?
Let me know, sounds like a good idea.

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:20 pm
by Hendrek
Yeah, at first I was thinking it would be nice to just have Sol Ro broken out but then there'd be trouble fitting everything in and have it still readable, so I figured a whole separate chart for all the kills.
So the columns would be like PoJ Trial, Behemoth, Grummus, Terris Thule, etc.
So in the Guild Master menu there'd be Guild Roster, PoP Flag Roster, PoP Kill Roster for example.
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:40 am
by Sephirum
Ok, so with that known, I count it as this for kills.
Trial, Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Behemoth, Aerin`Darr, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryn, Tallon Zek, Vallon Zek, Mithaniel Marr, Rizlona, Xuzl, Arlyxir, Protector of Dresolik. Sol Ro, Rallos Zek, and Agnarr.
That's what I see from my list of people to kill in the order I've listed. Did I miss anyone? That's 18 kills and on the PoP flags I have 17. Any more then 17, and I'm sure some people have issues now with 17, it will push the chart off the screen.
Also there are 5 other kills needed to get into PoTime. What are your thoughts?

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:11 am
by Hendrek
Hmm yeah, would also be nice to have HoH Trials and Carprin cycle, and down the road we'll need Earth Trials and Air Avatars, lol. Getting rather unwieldly.
PoJ Trial, Hedge Maze, Grummus, TT, Bert, Behemoth, Aerin`Dar, Sol Ro are already directly shown in the current view.
Maybe it would work to just have a page for the multi-part or sub-step kills, so just show 3 HoH Trials, Carprin, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, TZ, VZ, MM, Agnarr, RZ and the 5 Sol Ro minis. That's only 16
That would cover Elemental flagging, then Time flagging could be done separately if/when most of are elemental and the alliance turns its attention to that.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:08 pm
by Sephirum
Hmmm, I know it will break the table width, but would it be easier if I had a PoP roster like we currently have, but extend it so that it shows everyone's progress on their individual pages, on one page like the PoP roster?
I know Bassist had something set up with JavaScript to let everything load but would only show the main files and you could click to extend to show specifics. Whaddaya think?
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:13 am
by Hendrek
I'm not really sure what you're saying, but it sounds like your thinking of full details, I'm not sure that's necessary. Is there an issue with what I outlined in my last post, or something unclear?
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:21 am
by Sephirum
No, nothing is unclear, I'm just trying to think of what would be the best way to go about it, but after remembering how terribly huge the individual tables are, listing everything would be pretty crazy.
I guess I'll work on getting up that kill sheet to show the bigger planar progression kills, I'm just bummed that it's going to break tables, but hey...what can ya do.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:03 pm
by Hendrek
Hehe, well like I said, it doesn't seem like it would have to break anything, the ones I outlined would fit in less area than the current PoP flagging chart, and would fit all our needs for now.
I still feel like we're misunderstanding each other somewhere.

I'll work up some screenshots of what I'm thinking, hehe.
Edit: OK, here we go. It would take one more column because I forgot you would need Terris and Bert also since someone could be yellow(partial) because they got Carprin and Bert but not Terris, for example. I wouldn't think that would be a problem though, could be wrong.
So here's the new menu
and clicking PoP Kill would take you to something like this

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:41 pm
by Sephirum
Cool sounds like a fair deal, "a picture's worth a thousand words," as they say. Feel free to e-mail it to me, or show it as an image here, or whatever. :p
Maybe this will help us to come eye to eye of what we're both thinking about.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:19 pm
by Tekara
Anyway to lock the titles bar like have them on a seperate frame? When I scroll down the list of people I forget what the title was for that column. Or if you hover your mouse over a square it could show a label of the title.
Also for Torment.
Tell Fahlia Shadyglade "I will go to Torment."
I can't recall if I did this or not. If I hadn't I wouldn't be able to even enter the Torment zone correct?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:08 pm
by Sephirum
Tekara wrote:
Also for Torment.
Tell Fahlia Shadyglade "I will go to Torment."
I can't recall if I did this or not. If I hadn't I wouldn't be able to even enter the Torment zone correct?
You should still be able to enter because at 55 you can enter, I think you need to hail her and tell her the keyword so that you can get flagged. I'm not 100% sure, I'm only going by what Allakhazams used.
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:11 pm
by Tekara
Where is she at? PoT?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:42 am
by Sephirum
She can be found in
PoT here.
Loc is -302, -1363
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:17 pm
by Tekara
Thanks!